AIP-12: Consensus Unit Comment

Never heard of this. Why are you leaning on a multi sig, regardless?

It was in the Wau Holland report, but itā€™s an easy detail to forget.

I didnā€™t ā€œleanā€ on him I asked one question after he insisted he knew everything. And again,

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Sigh.

If one had an issue with any deemed unethical behavior concerning BZ - than the actual approach is to address the Admin team, which IS the procedure.

In a professional setting - would you publish someoneā€™s private messages with EVERYBODY?

In fact it is part of our community guidelines not to engage in something that would not be accepted in a professional place.

Its not like you have been specifically targetted either Emma - I was banned twice in succession and appealed it correctly behind the scenes with no drama - others here have been banned for MONTHS by BZ merely for asking about elements of his proposal. .

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Someoneā€™s messages with ME, not their ā€œprivate messages with EVERYBODY.ā€

You may be surprised to learn thatā€™s why I left it up to the community. You seem to be against it but havenā€™t voted ā€œNoā€. And youā€™re citing community guidelines posted in a place Iā€™m banned from even looking. So, :+1: :+1:

I did this multiple times, until I was blocked entirely. As for not being specifically targeted, read the excerpts posted again. As for the ā€œdramaā€ - Iā€™m not the one who brought this up here. That would be @San_Shi_Wu.

You make a good argument for removing bz as a mod, but you should bring that up elsewhere.

Where is this procedure listed? Is it in one of the places Iā€™ve been banned from? I brought up the issues in the chat Iā€™m not banned from and they were ignored until @San_Shi_Wu derailed the thread by bringing them up and saying that I was working with bz based off my saying bz canā€™t be trusted.

Those procedures were presented under Start here>Rules at Discord in May 2022 and were formulated by the community.

@San_Shi_Wu - did not derail the thread IMO. Theyā€™re talking about key skills for consideration of candidates for the GTU. Its a key governance issue to be fixed.

My opinion on that is that the DAO will need to hire people capable of appearing in the public arena with very strong relevant skills, if Gabriel wants the place to succeed.

As for the poll - pay me $ /s. I think the rules outlined, that is contact an admin is good enough for everybody to abide by.

Youā€™ve dodged the matter of raising those alleged moderation abuses first with other Admins or Gabriel. But havenā€™t explained why you didnā€™t take that sensible course of action. Clearer now?

Why would I? I didnā€™t bring it up here as a complaint - it was brought up as an allegation, and then I was repeatedly asked about it. You seem to think this is about me being banned, but itā€™s not. I gave up on being allowed in the Discord.

Very productive, very professional.

On the contrary, I already said I raised them in the only chat Iā€™m allowed in. Gabriel saw it and didnā€™t care (he has since left the group again).

As for Gabriel, heā€™s made it clear he doesnā€™t want to hear from me. As for the other admins, youā€™re asking why I didnā€™t consult a list of people that Iā€™m officially banned from seeing?

But the community has no power to unban you. So talk to the two Admins here. Im sure theyā€™re reasonable - theyā€™ve tidied up a few things here that I felt was a bit off. But I donā€™t think much of this revenge exposure stuff. Anyway you can contact HH and Zylo, independently.

Again, my problem wasnā€™t the ban. Iā€™m never going to be unbanned again, and I accept that. It was the duplicity, which is relevant to everyone. I donā€™t know how many times and ways I have to say that, but it was my first post on the matter in this thread (after San Shi Wu brought it up).

Doing something because Gabriel didnā€™t want him to do it is deliberate undermining, and he refused to explain further.

Youā€™re projecting a lot of meaning and intent on things while disregarding what I tell you happened and were my reasons, and refusing to look at the actual materials. Your bias is showing.

I really donā€™t know what you want or wish to achieve. If I look at those posts, it comes across as a it takes two to tango scenario, until it all went sour for both of you.

I wasnā€™t the one who brought it up here or posted the screenshots here. San Shi Wu did. I responded to clarify, and since then have answered questions and responded to posts directly at or about me while offering to be as transparent as the community wants, nothing more or less.

Leave off the dressing and nefarious assumptions and youā€™re close enough, there.

Take responsibility for posting them at the DAO, in the first place. The place is trying to recover, You always had more discete options. One would have been to walk away as soon as they gave you grief in their messages.

I have and do take responsibility for that. (Start with my first post on the matter in this thread and work your way down)

The community deserved to know. Your preference for silence and unity isnā€™t a reason to not share relevant information with the community. I know itā€™s relevant because San_Shi_Wu brought it up, which you said ā€œdid not derail the threadā€ because:

Itā€™s ā€œa key governance issueā€ thatā€™s relevant to the communityā€™s governance discussions, including this one. Your words.

You can blame me for speaking up about a problem (as always) which is a waste of energy IMHO, or you can deal with the problem, or you can sit with the problem.

I think anything else is both of us wasting our time, and we should really let the thread get back on topic.

Agree because I donā€™t and never would expose a private chat. Unless the content was illegal.

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Trying to get the thread going again / back on the main topic:

About the GTU candidates,I would like to recommend Martin Kƶppelmann. He is a holder of the Justice token and has been a long-time supporter of Assange.just not sure if he would be willing to join and dedicate time to our community.

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I donā€™t know much about Martin Kƶppelmann, but what I do know (mostly having seen his posts shared on social media) suggests heā€™d be a good advocate.

I was able to convert the HTML exports to PDF, and uploaded them here. Original archive was posted to Telegram here.

BZ 01.pdf (3.8 MB)
BZ 02.pdf (805.1 KB)

Attachments:
PA summary with bail.pdf (57.2 KB)
AssangeDAO-Governance notes March 5, 2022.html.pdf (45.0 KB)

Assange-Audios.zip (58.2 MB)

forum.assangedao.org-simple.zip (39.1 MB)

The PA summary with bail is about E, the former multisig. E originally posted the video, as well, which is a screen recording of one of the Telegram chats used by AssangeDAOā€™s organizers.

The March 5, 2022 Governance notes come from A Collective Notion instance.

The audio files from Assangeā€™s hearing were originally posted by Cryptome as released by the court, as PDFs with the MP3s attached. Because thatā€™s confusing and weird, I extracted the MP3s and sent those raw. For completeness, all of them are included here.

The archive of the old forum was taken from the Wayback Machine. Itā€™s an attempt to make a snapshot of the forums using the most recently archived version of each page before the forum went down, using the Wayback Machine Downloader. Iā€™ve also uploaded this and a more complete archive here, and by clicking ā€œView Contentsā€ on this page you can browse either version without downloading it.

If anyone notices any missing attachments, please let me know and Iā€™ll try to add them. Likewise for any questions about the attachments, or their origins.