Mr. Assange is free, but the Assangedao community of tens of thousands of people is still not free. The community needs to develop, not just stand still because of one person’s manipulation. It’s been almost three years, and Assangedao has not been recognized or developed. It’s terrible! What are you waiting for? Either give the community independent power and let them vote to decide on development, or reorganize the administrators and develop the dao together. Please take action as soon as possible, and don’t be incompetent and do nothing.
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At the time E was pretending to be doing work here - there were many great suggestions and draft proposals from Andrew Teh, Zylo and PMA - the workhorses of this place in the early days. In particular, Andrew Teh wrote extensively about Governance. Why their work was not formulated into Proposals for voting by the management team (those with proposal rights) is unknown. They did not seem to be controversial and they were concise.
If the DAO could revise those ideas via a paid administrator or operations manager expert and incorporate into a Governance structure (by also granting them with Proposer status), I think most problems could be resolved.
Running on volunteers IMO, is haphazard. Successful DAOs hire consultants and experts.
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We need confirmation of who out of the current mult-sig team are active.
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The current list of official Proposers.
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We need a statement about the current liaison between the multi sig, Harry Halpin and Gabriel with Wau Holland re whether there will be any fund reimbursement to the DAO either directly or indirectly via another foundation.
Let’s put a date on this. Feedback from management and those who hold multi sig keys is required by next Friday, 22 November 2024. I think it is reasonable, participants have been waiting for weeks without useful insight into what is happening behind the scenes.
Individuals could then decide what to do with their participation, based on facts, henceforth.
In the meantime - we can all be positive - by adding our future project ideas to a thread here.
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This might be Snapshot under the Members tab
Some of the addresses are named at The First Step Toward AssangeDAO Governance - AssangeDAO
But I agree it would be good to get official confirmation of that and the rest.
加密世界正在蓬勃发展，现在最关键的是首先要有一个合法的投票平台，一些紧迫优先可行的想法，可以先形成一个决议，而不是一直卡在这里，什么事情都做不了。
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AIP-12 updated so GTU works with consensus unit rather than replacing it.
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Thanks Gabriel. Discord isn’t loading this. Can’t view it there.
Query - just to confirm
Are Silke Noa, Stella R Magnet and BZ available to be members of the GTU?
I thought Stellar Magnet was not available to be on the GTU? Haven’t heard anything lately on the forum from BZ?
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I think it needs Gabriel to reach out to these core members to bring them on board for fixing the governance . Without their participation, we cannot accomplish anything.
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Tagging @Gabriel @SilkeNoa and @bz404 to make sure they saw PT’s post. (I’m not aware of any other organizers, multisigs, or consensus unit members on the forums)
I don’t think any of these were answered or acknowledged, though Gabriel did post in the thread.
I did receive a response from Wau Holland Stiftung to one of my questions last night. They wrote that the final transparency report “will be ready by the end of November. And the general gist of it will not be much different from the preliminary report.”
As to other questions - apparently we should go to Germany in April and ask in person at an event.
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Hello all
Stellarmagnet here. Just wanted to say that when AIP-12 was drafted, I was just trying to be helpful, I wasn’t trying to write out the Consensus Unit from this transition process as an adversarial move. It was more neutral and conversational, like me trying to read the room, and maybe come up with some left-field ideas.
Unfortunately, a lot of life things came up this summer, and I was unable to continue participating and deliberating. I apologize for leaving everyone hanging like that.
I just want to express that I personally have no problems with what @Gabriel is requiring as far as what would make AIP-12 valid.
I honestly just wish for this DAO to come to a state of peace and resolution. Sometimes I can read the room incorrectly for what that looks like.
Additionally, I can volunteer about 10 hours/month helping review proposals, and do my part in helping with the transition, if you need me, but I won’t have that much capacity for emotional labor.
Let me know.
Regards,
Stella R. Magnet
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For what it’s worth, I think that’ll be vitally helpful. I’m sure I’m not the only one breathing a sigh of relief on reading your post.
It’s been at least a week and as far as I know, no one has raised objections or proposed changes to the latest version of AIP-12.
Do you know what the next steps would be, @stellarmagnet?
The discussion about AIP12 has been going on for three months now, and there are no objections to Gabriel’s updated API community. Do we need to discuss another three months? Everyone is tired, is there anyone who can make a decision? The efficiency of lengthy discussions is low. If a company operates like this, it would have gone bankrupt long ago. After acquiring Twitter, musk carried out large-scale layoffs, reducing the number of Twitter employees from about 7800 to about 1500, with a layoff rate of about 80%. You can lay off Gabriel ,a manager with low work efficiency.
What now? Can anyone give answers or move things along?
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We must ensure that those in positions of power who were responsible for @AssangeDAO are not able to disappear off and pretend that they never had anything to do with it.
We have the receipts. They must face justice.justice will be served.
It has been several months since the drafting of AIP-12, and I truly believe we shouldn’t remain stuck at this stage. The GTU members have yet to be confirmed, and Stella has withdrawn her nomination due to personal reasons. Originally, the GTU was supposed to have five members, but now only three remain: Gabriel, SILK, and BZ. Since there are no other suitable candidates in the community, I suggest proceeding with just these three members for now and submitting the proposal to Snapshot for a vote to get the community governance running first.
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I agree with this. It’s time to move on, if the DAO ever will
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Under german law a non profit is not allowed to convert the proceeds to private use, and they could easily transfer it to the DAO, if the DAO was a legally registered nonprofit. Moreover, the whole thing could be fixed with the german tax authorities, if the original fund had been set up as an attorney trust account, however attorney trust accounts have extreme oversight, to prevent the attorneys from literally stealing money from incarcerated clients. A resolution would be to talk to the finance department, to amend the previous years tax returns, to reflect that they were the custodian for an attorney trust account, and they are returning the trust funds back to the originators.
Of course Wau Holland isn’t even a legal enttity, it was administratively dissolved because of previous non compliance with non profit reporting of where the funds are going, and so the funds either ended up in one of the CCC’s shell companies, or with Andy Mueller himself.
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Yes, actually we submitted many draft proposals, and had it been a DAO, the first proposal regarding max bid / refunds would have been implimented, as would have mine with regards to funding a Habeas Corpus fight to free assange, and instead the family got him to plea guilty instead of filing for habeas relief, instead spending the money to ingratiate australian politicians.
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