Assange Family unit - Maximum Bid

Dear Mr. Shipton,

It is with the greatest disspointment of my life to leave this message here. I have been a long time Assange sympathiser.

But what happened in this DAO makes lose faith in his cause. I know it does not matter as powerfuls are always powerfuls. I am just one man.

I would vote for sending all the money to help Assange even if the bid was not won. It is the principle at stake. I thought you and the Assange family understood the importance of transparency, accountability and due proces better than anyone in this world. What you, Stella, the multisig and the core team are doing here completely destroy the very foundamental values Assange stands for.

While you value your success in monetary terms, what you and Assange have lost are meaning and purpose.

I wish Assange, Stella and their beautiful child all the best. But Assange’s fight may no long be mine anymore.

cheers,

So you are saying it is okay for a handful men/women decide the fate of many?

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After this open scam im sure you and julian wife will go to prison. Open fraud. Its just beginning.

I disagree, I support bidding for NFT with enough eth, and let DAO manage NFT and the remaining eth, so that more people can rescue Assange. If all eth is used for bidding for NFT, then it is obviously a scam to start financing in the name of dao. Since dao is not needed, why use the name of dao, which will increase the legal risk faced by Assange.

the world needs to be heard!!

I disagree -1, we need liquidity, JUSTICE !

Disagree -1. Not all funds need to be used.

I disagree -1, we need liquidity, JUSTICE!

Agreed. +1 Lets go all in.

If people want to do liquidity nothing prevents the token-holders from voting and boot-strapping their own liquidity pool, or someone actually doing it with their own liquidity.

Maxbid was not a unanimous decision. Many in the community disagree with the choice and have voiced this on the forum.

There are those of us who entered AssangeDAO believing in DAOs as a powerful tool for mass cypherpunk coordination. We rejected maxbid because we believed the DAO more capable of managing the funds in a transparent, accountable and collective way than a traditional foundation.

However, Assange’s family expressed their support of maxbid and the multisig signed off on the transaction.

$JUSTICE has rallied together a young and ideological community, unified in their support of Assange. I believe this is only the beginning for AssangeDAO. DarkFi is committed to building anonymous DAO tooling to serve this community directly.

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I disagree -1, we need liquidity, JUSTICE !

I would be willing to take your place as multisig replacement, contingent upon the organization being willing to pivot to becoming a criminal justice reform group, with the purpose of freeing people who are incarcerated for speech related crimes.

Just noting that McKenna, Silke, Fisk, lunar_mining and me are the 5 members of the multisig.

This situation was ethically complex. Everybody had the interests of Assange in all their conduct. Discussions were carried out in a mutually respectful and empathetic way.

The pressure on the multisigner team to maxbid was intense. Faced with this, the team demanded we adhere to the formal process established on the website. We also worked to move the discussion to a transparent forum, but given the sensitivity of Assange’s case, it was not always possible.

2 members of the team were in favour of maxbid, 2 members were against, and the last person was neutral but wanted the family veto documented in order to ascertain the process was followed.

Pro-Maxbid

The pro-maxbid argument was that we now possess funds earmarked for Assange’s defence, and a small window of opportunity to move them into a secure well-established legal structure in Germany before becoming compromised by operatives and state-level actors.

Assange faces imminent extradition to the US on charges of espionage and a possible death sentence. He’s held in the UK equivalent of Guantanamo Bay where they keep hardcore jihadi and nazi scumbags. While in prison, he’s suffered immense stress and recently had a stroke. His case is enormously complex and international with huge mounting legal costs where even $50m might not be enough.

The Wau Holland foundation is a well established legal entity in Germany with the full capacity to adequately ensure the best legal representation for Assange in his international fight against injustice. DAOs are relatively new and despite having huge promise that has all drawn us here, the research and knowledge on their governance is still nascent.

Pro-Vote

The other argument for not defunding the treasury down to 0%, was that there is a community of smart, young, ideological people committed to the Assange cause who are into technology and cryptocurrency and have access to resources. That network of people by itself is valuable for the Assange cause.

However by defunding the treasury, we send the argument that we do not believe in the DAO at all.

People have countered that the DAO is not an investment vehicle to make money. Yes, there are people who invested to make money from the next hype cycle meme stock and exit. There are others who also made a donation.

But what set the DAO apart from other donation schemes was that this was not structured as a donation. The concept inspired by FreeRossDAO was to bid on Assange NFTs in an organic market and build a treasury of liquid NFTs. However, as everyone knows, the PAK auction failed to get any market activity which is why maxbid was triggered.

By defunding the DAO to 0%, the signal is sent to the community of supporters that they were never meant to be involved in the grand mission of freeing Assange from jail or participating in his cause. Instead they were a means to raise capital for the Wau Holland foundation.

Conclusion

This argument that invoking their veto right would be a mistake for the Assange cause was carefully considered by the Assange campaign team. They understood the full implication of taking this action, and it wasn’t easy for them.

Complicating this were various statements made on social media that were not approved by the team. Only the website, AIPs on GitHub and formal statements here are taken as representative of AssangeDAO.

The Assange legal campaign team are regularly dealing with state-level agents, and saw a simple pathway to do the maximum good for Assange with a well established entity that has a successful track-record of defending Assange and other people. DAOs are unproven to the vast majority of the world, despite the promise of them that has brought everyone here to participate (including myself).

Faced with this and all other options, the close confidants of Assange who are involved on a daily basis with the intricate complexities of his case that cannot be published transparently chose to invoke their veto right to stop the governance process and force the DAO to relinquish all funds to the German entity. This was in the design of the governance process from day 1 and published on the website.

The main goal of the core team now is to establish a clear, transparent and fair governance process to involve the wider enthusiastic community which still holds great value for the Assange cause.

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Thank you for this great insight into what was a very complex and tense situation.

In the light of this events i believe you guys made the best decision possible.

Now let’s focus on stage 2.

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Thank you narodnik. I admire your courage. We peeps finally have a glimpse of behind the iron curtain. But this gives me hope that we can still save this DAO and this great initiative. I am glad and relieved to see conscious and integrity still exist in the current leadership.

We (allow me to use this word unauthorised.) cryptofolks are idealists, visionaries, trailblazers. Yet we are also profiteers, speculators, fanantics and opportunists. No glory no shame. We “don’t trust”, we “verify”. We are, indeed, a group of poeple with contradictory purposes; but yet building a furture for the common good.

The actions spoke lound and clear that the Assange family and their legal team value money higher than principle. They have regarded this organisation purely as a money-grabbing machine. What they have done, however noble the intention may be, have completely defeated the very purpose of this DAO. You don’t win your fight against darkness by acting in darkness. imho, they are not suitable, as vaulalbe as partners they may for the common purpose, for the leadership role of this DAO. I would expect them, as the frontline fighter, value the principles that Assange had fought for higher than anything and any of us.

Damages have been inflicted. But it may not be too late to still save this DAO. I propose:

(1) The DAO should re-elect its leadership team immediately.
(2) The DAO should request and obtain donation from WAU Holland Foundation/Assange family such an amount that is sufficient to sustain the operation of the DAO. Treate us with respect and care as you would do to Wikileaks. We deserve it.
(3) I personally demand an apology from the leadership team for wilfully branding community memers "CxA agents’ / “bot”/“trolls”/“haters” and censoring them. We are just asking honest quesitons.

YOU DON’T WIN FIGHT AGAINST INJUSTICE WITH INJUSTICE!

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Thanks for the explanation @narodnik. Really appreciated!

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The core team raised money in name of DAO but completely ignored community’s voice, it’s rediculous, if this is a donation I will say nothing but it’s a DAO, liars, shamed on you guys. We need justice and fair, this is also the purpose to save Assange.

Standing for the liberation of Julian Assange!
As a member of the DAO community, we are determined to cooperate with Assange’s family to free Assange.

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You don’t understand DAO and Crypto world at all, stupid decision ruined Assange reputation and AssangeDao.