写给社区/write to the community

这些天以来AssangeDAO发生了很多事情,作为来自中国的捐赠者,我想把一些经历和想法写给整个社区

历程

十几天之前在Juicebox上出现的AssangeDAO引起很多华人极大的兴趣。一传十,十传百的让很多来为AssangeDAO捐款。不可否认,华人对AssangeDAO的捐款数额、人数和活跃度都是都是巨大的,这一点从Juicebox留言板和discord活跃的人员都可以看出来。

但戏剧的是:与捐赠时华语社区做出的积极态度相比,在捐赠后期以及完成后却做出了极大的破坏。当时矛盾点集中在举行了第二轮捐款和全额拍下CLOCK NFT。

这时流言和诽谤不绝于耳,“项目方卷款跑路了、阿桑奇家人只在乎钱、17000ETH够打很多场官司了、这些钱阿桑奇几辈子都用不完”。

直到$JUSTICE代币的价格走势成为了压垮骆驼的最后一根稻草。

于是事情发展到一部分人要求:“把核心团队踢出去,我们(华人)要掌控DAO的走向、多签必须由华人掌控、中国社区要选出代表,去跟项目方谈判、项目方做事没效率,应该按照我们的做法去做、项目方不做事,我们要骂他们才会做事、要求PAK退款,由社区决定怎么使用款项、把CLOCK卖掉,卖出的资金提供流动性” 不专业的分析,没有充分的研究,盲目的听从他人建议,假消息不绝于耳,恐慌,不信任,憎恨的情绪充斥着华语社区的每个地方。华人社区与核心团队和阿桑奇家人的对立达到了顶峰。

但是经过2月15日的社区对话,华人社区冷静了许多。这种冷静背后的关键因素是华人社区一点点了解核心团队了,认识了Amir,也了解到了AssangeDAO的核心任务是什么。虽然现在还有一些人希望AssangeDAO按照商业模式来操作,但是大部分人开始理智的对待AssangeDAO的未来,并且与核心团队的目标有了更多的共识。

教训

在这一系列事情发生后,在无休止的重复和吵闹中,我们要学到什么呢?我们怎么做才是最有效的沟通呢?

我想首先要从这次捐款的动机说起,因为在很多人的意识中,区块链只是一个赚钱的地方,因此不管是什么原因,什么人发起的项目,只要有代币,只要有很多人参与,就认为它是可以赚钱的,伴随着这个目的,大多数人在“社区领袖”的鼓噪下来到AssangeDAO。实际上发明区块链的目的从来都不是为了赚钱,随着技术的发展,区块链承载的东西也越来越多。

其次是DYOR( Do Your Own Research ),中国国内网友的现状是英语不好,不是所有人都能轻松的阅读和理解英文,也几乎不会去看英语文章,大多数人的消息来源是别人转述。这会带来两个恶果,一是转述者自己也不一定清楚了解了全部事实,从而做出错误的决定;二是转述人还可能恶意传播谣言和诽谤,从而达到煽动他人而为自己谋利的目的。我觉得再累再困难,做出自己的调研是非常重要的,只有这样自己才会成为一个明智的人。

然后是遵守必要的程序,不管是在公司、行政机构、慈善组织、社会团体,秩序和流程是必要的,这是公民社会能够有效工作的基础。因此我们要对Discord以及官方网站列出的一系列条款需要多加研究,不要视而不见。

最后是停止使用语言暴力,做出理性的沟通。使用任何暴力都不会让对方屈服于你,只有知识才能做到。

保持社区的安宁祥和,让头脑风暴在社区里展开才能吸引更多有能力的人参与。

我认为华人社区现阶段最急迫的事是,组织一批诚实的志愿者通过翻译核心团队和阿桑奇家人的英文文章、社区流程、未来规划以及阿桑奇先生的战斗经历,阿桑奇打官司将要涉及的一切,把信息准确无误的传达到每个人,让更多的华人真实的了解AssangeDAO和阿桑奇的精神。大家需要做好基本功。因为很多人都不知道阿桑奇是谁,也分不清维基百科和维基解密。

我想这些事不用由“官方委派“谁来做,DAO的精神是自下而上的自治运行,如果谁能够做这些事直接就可以做。

DAO

对DAO的思考:

从MakerDAO到Uniswap DAO、YGG再到ConstitutionDAO、AssangeDAO,我们看到DAO从先建立公司/社区再推行治理目标,到发起治理目标再吸引社区成员的一个发展过程。治理的宽度也逐渐从公司治理走向社会运动实践。去年在元宇宙大火的时候我在思考元宇宙里有什么,其中就想到了DAO,我认为DAO是启蒙思想的延续,通过和元宇宙结合能够进行社会实践活动,如果一百多年前有元宇宙和DAO,巴黎公社或许会以公社DAO的形式运行;某种形式的社会形态(资本主义社会/共产主义社会)也可以在元宇宙里通过DAO的形式来预演。通过在元宇宙的预演得出各种宝贵的经验。

一个健康的DAO治理需要成员对其核心使命感兴趣,并愿意为之付出。

一个有使命的DAO他所做的一切只会为其使命服务,并不会把注意力转移到Token的价格上来,除非这个DAO就是为了Token价格而成立。Token的作用只是体现在治理投票权益上。

DAO以一个核心目标而建立,他的成败取决于是否去达成核心目标,并得到丰富的经验和广泛的影响力。

DAO作为一个跨国界跨种族组织,不应该存在中国社区,外国社区这一说法,语言和地理位置不应该成为特殊的理由,我们应该是一个整体,为了一个目标而奋斗的整体。DAO作为一个去中心化自治组织,也不会有“领导“这种”中心“出现。

虽然我想了这么多,然而没有人能够真正的定义什么是真正的DAO,什么是完美的DAO。一切都需要历史的发展来印证,而我们正是这段历史的书写者。

思考

我们在捐款时是否知道捐赠的真正含义以及自己能从捐赠中得到什么权益? 就算是我们去做投资是否了解了项目的背景、流程、发起人、投资人?

在开启第二轮捐赠这个问题上,因为是捐赠,所以被捐赠方不会给捐赠方保证任何收益,所以更多的钱能办更多事是对开启捐赠的一方好的一面,我们在面对这一问题时是否考虑了道德问题? 还是抓住说的不放?

如果你加入了一个拯救徐州被铁链锁住并生了八个孩子的妈妈的DAO。你是否说得出这篇文章最开始引用的那些污言秽语?


A lot has happened at AssangeDAO over the past few days, and as a donor from China, I would like to share some of my experiences and thoughts with the community

History

Ten days ago AssangeDAO appeared on Juicebox and attracted a lot of interest from Chinese people. One pass ten ten pass hundred, many people came to donate to AssangeDAO. There is no denying that the amount, number and activity of Chinese people donating to AssangeDAO is huge, as can be seen from the active people on the Juicebox message boards and discord.

But here is the drama: in contrast to the positive attitude made by the Chinese community at the time of the donation, great damage was done in the later stages of the donation and after its completion also by them. The point of conflict at that time centered on the holding of a second round of donations and the full bid of CLOCK NFT.

At that time rumors and slander abounded: “the project side run away with the money, Assange’s family only cared about the money, 17,000 ETH is enough for many lawsuits, and the money should be used by Assange for several lifetimes”.

Until the price trend of $JUSTICE tokens became the last straw that broke the camel’s back.

So things developed to the point where part of the people demanded: “Kick out the core team, we (Chinese) have to control the direction of DAO.” “Multi-signature must be controlled by Chinese.” “The Chinese community has to elect representatives to negotiate with the project side.” “The project side is not doing things efficiently, they should do what we do.” “The project side does nothing, we have to scold them so they will do things.” “Demand a refund from PAK, and the community Decide how to use the money.” “Sell the CLOCK NFT, the money sold should provide LP”. Unprofessional analysis, not enough research, blindly following others’ advice, fake news abounds, panic, mistrust, and hatred fill every part of the Chinese community. The confrontation between the Chinese community and the core team and Assange’s family reached its peak.

But after the community dialogue on February 15, the Chinese community calmed down a lot. The key factor is that the Chinese community got to know the core team a little bit, got to know Amir, and got to know what AssangeDAO’s core mission is. Although there are still some people who want AssangeDAO to operate according to the business model, most people are starting to be sensible about the future of AssangeDAO and have more consensus with the core team’s goals.

Lessons

What are we going to learn after this series of events, amidst the endless repetition and bickering? What can we do to communicate most effectively?

First thing is the motivation of this donation, I think we need to start with the motivation for this donation, because in many people’s minds, blockchain is just a place to make money, so no matter for what propose and who started the project, as long as there has tokens, as long as there are many people involved, it is considered to be profitable. and along with this purpose, many people came to AssangeDAO with the encouragement of “community leaders”. In fact, the purpose of inventing blockchain is never to make money, and as the technology develops, the blockchain carries more and more things.

Secondly, DYOR (Do Your Own Research), The current situation of domestic netizens in China is that English is not good. Not everyone can read and understand English easily, and almost cannot read English articles. Most of the sources of information are relayed by others. This can bring two evils: first, the relayer himself may not know all the facts clearly, and thus make wrong decisions; second, the relayer may also maliciously spread rumors and slander, thus achieving the purpose of inciting others for his own benefit. I think it is very important to make your own research even if you are tired and difficult, and only then you will become a wise person.

Then there is the observance of the necessary procedures, whether in a company, an administrative agency, a charitable organization, or a social group, order and process are necessary as the basis for society to be able to work effectively. Therefore, we need to do more research on the series of terms listed on Discord and the official website, and don’t turn a blind eye.

The last thing is to stop using verbal violence and make rational communication. Using any violence will not make people submit to you, only knowledge will do.

Keep the peace and tranquility of the community and let the brainstorming unfold in the community in order to attract more capable people to participate.

I think the most urgent thing for the Chinese community at this stage is to organize a group of honest volunteers to translate the English articles of the core team and Assange’s family, and community processes, future plans and Mr. Assange’s fighting experience., and everything about Assange’s lawsuit, convey the information to everyone accurately and let more Chinese truly understand the spirit of AssangeDAO and Assange.Everyone needs to do the homework, because many people even don’t know who Assange is, and can’t tell the difference between Wikipedia and Wikileaks.

I think these things do not need to be “officially appointed” by anyone to do, the spirit of DAO is to run autonomy from the bottom up, if anyone can do these things directly to do.

DAO

Thought on DAO.

From MakerDAO to Uniswap DAO, YGG to ConstitutionDAO and AssangeDAO, we see a development process of DAO from first establishing a company/community and then implementing governance goals, to initiating governance goals and then attracting community members. The breadth of governance has moved from corporate governance to social movement practices. Last year when the Metaverse was on fire I was thinking about what’s in Metaverse, and DAO came to my mind. I think DAO is a continuation of the Enlightenment Thought, and by combining with the Metaverse can carry out social practice activities, if there was a Metaverse and DAO more than 100 years ago, the Paris Commune might run as a communal DAO; some form of social form (capitalist society/communist society) can also be in the Metaverse by previewing it in the form of a DAO. Various valuable lessons are drawn from the previews in the Metaverse.

A healthy DAO governance requires that its members are interested in and willing to commit to its core mission.

A DAO with a mission will do everything to serve that mission and will not turn its attention to the price of Tokens, unless the DAO is set up for the price of Tokens. Token’s role is only reflected in the governance of voting interests.

The DAO is established with a core mission, its success or failure depends on reaching the core mission and getting rich experience and wide influence.

DAO as a cross-border inter-ethnic organization, there should be no Chinese community, no foreign community, language and geographical location should not be the reason for special, we should be united as one, to reach one goal. As a decentralized autonomous organization, there should be no “leader” as a “center”.

Although I think so much, but no one can really define what is the real DAO, what is the perfect DAO. everything needs the development of history to prove, and we are the writers of this history.

Reflections

When we donate, do we know what donation really means and what benefits we can get from it? Even if we do investment, do we understand the background, process, sponsor, and investors of the project?

On the issue of starting the second round of donations, because it is a donation, the donated party will not guarantee any income to the donor, so more money can do more things, which is a good side for the party who started the donation. Do we consider the ethical issues when facing this issue? Or hold on to what they says?

If you joined a DAO to save a mother in Xuzhou who was chained up and gave birth to eight children, would you be able to say the filthy language I quoted at the beginning of this article?

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The whole point of an organization, is that it does operate like a business, because even not for profit organizations need to pay for staff, offices, etc. The key issue, is whether the organization creates value for other people, if it does then there will be revenue.

一个组织的全部意义在于它确实像一个企业一样运作,因为即使是非盈利组织也需要支付员工、办公室等费用。关键问题是,该组织是否为其他人创造价值,如果它这样做了,那么 会有收入。

This is valuable input, that we need to translate meetings into both english and chinese. We had a community call, and no person was speaking chinese or writing transcripts in chinese, so its hard to say that the chinese understand the contents of that call. I have been told that there are chinese moderators, and that they are banning people from discussions if they hold the wrong viewpoint, so this is in my mind a place for improvement.

这是宝贵的意见,我们需要将会议翻译成英文和中文。 我们有一个社区电话,没有人说中文或用中文写成绩单,所以很难说中国人理解那个电话的内容。 我听说有中文版主,如果他们持有错误的观点,他们会禁止人们讨论,所以在我看来这是一个需要改进的地方。

Everyone needs to do the homework, because many people even don’t know who Assange is, and can’t tell the difference between Wikipedia and Wikileaks.

Is this because both are banned in china? is the Chinese translation of the name very similar?
这是因为两者都在中国被禁止吗? 这个名字的中文翻译是不是很相似?

I think this is disingenuous, because nobody has a grievance with Xiao Huamei, but people do have legitimate grievances with the DAO leaders, but many times when people are angry they say words without thinking.

我认为这是不诚实的,因为没有人对肖华美有任何不满,但人们对DAO领导人确实有合理的不满,但很多时候人们在生气时会不假思索地说出来。

I can confirm that. I was in the channel to understand what’s going on there and many people struggle and spread misinformation, like the project is a scam etc. Just goin there, translating the chats shows a lot of stuff that is just not cool.

Some misunderstood or didn’t research properly about the the donation fund and thought it is more an open crypto investment fund to make financial profit. Now, there are groups that want to sabotage the project and make this Assange DAO, just a DAO, making the common goal to free Assange secondarily, or even irrelevant. The most cruel community members even want that Assange stays in prison and this is clearly against our common goal. I collected messages that confirm this…

There are also rumours to create community leaders in order to have a bigger influence on certain interest groups, which would make the principle of this DAO less neutral, I’m afraid.

A strong, respectful community only works, when we all share a common goal, instead of cooking several different soups with different interests… Since this is a AssangeDAO for Assange, I believe that it also should stick to its idea and goal and not see this project as a business opportunity, in my opinion. We owe this to Julian. I hope that the translation in the upcoming meetings will be 100% correct and also that we will find a common consens in order to bundle up our power and focus on solutions how to fullfill our goal.

After Assange is free, we could cook other soups with this DAO. But for now, we have to unite, otherwise we can’t continue efficiently.

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中文版主出于什么原因禁言我不知道,但是中文频道确实有很多侮辱和吵架出现。甚至版主都会是被诽谤的对象
I don’t know what the reason for the ban is, but the #中文 channel does have a lot of insults and quarrels appear. Even moderators can be the subject of slander

Wikipedia is 维基百科,Wikileaks is 维基解密,because the first two words are the same, it it is easy to be linked to the same company. Not only are these two banned in China, but almost all the website you can normally visit is banned in China.

我的意思是(如果有一个)拯救小花梅的核心团队只为拯救小花梅而不关心币价,那些人是否还骂核心团队,现在很多人骂阿桑奇DAO的核心团队,仅仅是因为币价太低,以后币价上涨了,你会看不到骂声的。何况他们诽谤多于陈述事实,
I mean the core team (if there have one) to save Xiaohuamei only to save her and do not care about the token price, whether those people still scold the core team. Now many people scold the core team of AssangeDAO, simply because the token price is too low, after the token price rises, you will not see the scolding sound. What’s more, they slander more than state the facts.

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