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Who hid Logan’s proposal? Why can’t I see it? Who is the administrator? I need to see which person reported this, and we need to address this egregious behavior.
@Gabriel disclose the backend data
IMHO someone ignoring you isn’t a reason to delete their posts.
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Don’t judge others by your own petty standards
.I haven’t done anything ,and I honestly don’t even know how to report anyone.
Also, my post did not go off-topic. Gabriel was talking about setting up a perpetual AssangeDAO Fund, and my suggestion directly relates to that ,it focuses on how to allocate treasury resources to create sustainable and stable revenue for that very fund.
You’re absolutely free to disagree with my allocation plan, but it’s unfair to say it’s off-topic
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Logan I wish you would move it to another thread because its a significant Draft Proposal that applies to asset management and budget allocations. I think its going to get lost here. You’ve categorised different layers and attributed proposed projects to each layer. I think the rationale for each allocation could be explored. Also there should be discssuion about using dApps which could automate Layer 1 possibly that people like Silke may know more about. I think its a huge topic to explore.
As for the PerpetualAssangeDAO Fund - I see it included in the DAOs mission and I think the community wants to see revenue come in first and not do that by selling off assets. I also hope that this would lead to a pursuit of the Wau Holland funds available. Its fit for purposes IMO. If Julian is going to be involved - is Wau Holland going to say no?
My post has been hidden, and normal communication is no longer possible here. There were already few people speaking, and now even fewer will do so. 35, you can just play by yourself @Gabriel @SilkeNoa @zylo_eth
thanks for your suggestion. I believe that the next step should follow Zylo’s suggestion , to first define a new mission for AssangeDAO. We could integrate Gabriel’s Perpetual AssangeDAO fund idea，then subsequently build around the community’s new mission.
Perhaps we can come up with around three potential mission statements together in Zylo’s discussion topic (or even just one, if there’s strong alignment).
Once the community reaches some consensus in that topic. then submit them as a Snapshot proposal for the community to vote on. The mission statement with the highest number of votes would officially become the DAO’s new mission and guiding purpose moving forward.
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Ok, I accept your apology.
We’ve had many disagreements in the past
but I want to make it clear that I’ve never tried to silence or block you from sharing your personal views by reporting you.
At the same time, I think the mods are being overly strict with post reviews on the forum now. maybe you’re also a victim of this excessive moderation. I hope the mods can be more lenient and not hide posts just because of someone’s random report.
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FWIW, I think it’s auto moderation. It triggered for me once awhile ago. Part of the issue might be that more people need permissions to review auto-moderator actions so false positives don’t linger.
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35 hope that budgets are formulated by people with financial professional backgrounds. Wake up! We currently have no money and no talent. Do we need to spend money recruiting a financial actuary to formulate budget plans, and then spend several months like the recruitment of multi-signature? This suggestion lacks realism and further hinders the implementation of various community wills. Is it like a person who is about to starve to death still pursuing a perfect diet in terms of color, aroma, and taste? No one knows everything about this place better than us, and no one is more capable of making budget plans than us.
Deleted Im going to try to write my thoughts down properly to make this clearer.
Maybe this is a complex idea… I really wish to see milestones and reinvigoration in 2026. So, if the perpetual fund idea has consensus support, I guess this is where the DAO should start firming up its trajectory and make it happen.
Regarding the Perpetual Award. First the DAO could receive more information regarding where the original funds have been spent. The issue
- Wau Holland has not outlined in any detail where the money has been spent since 2022, even though Silke Noa has regarded this as crucial. (More about this further down**)
- Unspent fund balance. No update.
- Because of this, the DAO receives no recognition and cannot repurpose its marketing. It is being forced to start from scratch. It has been rendered invisible whilst others receive boasting rights and ownership of the sucess. (Note: full credit to the people like Halpin who came up with the concept of forming this DAO and ceaselessly promoted it)
- No collaboration between the DAO and elsewhere in place, since 2022.
- No bridge with Wau Holland.
- Limited treasury
- No practical feedback from the core on approved proposals as to activity.
Recently I have learnt that the AssangeDAO has indirectly contributed to the prestigious International Ellsberg Whistleblower Award (EWA)*** via (Wau Holland Stiftung) Project Area 7: Moral Courage which the DAO/Pak/Assange censored collab funded by Pak/DAO - USD 54 million.
The Wau Holland Foundation is one of the founding organisations overseeing the International Ellsberg Whistleblower Award (EWA). The DAO an indirect connection but currently is unable to capitalise on it.
What is this award?
The International Ellsberg Whistleblower Award (EWA) is a prestigious award honoring whistleblowers and their allies who disclose information that enhances public/scientific debate, strengthens the public’s right to know, and supports democracy. It is named after Daniel Ellsberg (Pentagon Papers leaker) and was established with his approval before his death in 2023. The inaugural 2024 award went to Daniel Hale (source for “The Drone Papers”); the 2026 awardee is Andrés Olarte Peña.
The DAO aimed to do similar re the Assange Award in 2022.
The AssangeDAO cannot afford to establish the Assange Award BUT it could possibly reclaim by getting some skin in the game. Get its logo and name recognition out in conjunction with better collaboration in 2026.
Re the perpetual fund
• Make one major objective to be about co-branded collaboration> there must be established outreach mechanism in 2026. A little bit of expenditure on marketing consultancy would not go astray, maybe that should be based in Germany (to network with Wau Holland - maybe the legal route is self defeating/too hard/uncertain/flawed/regressive and is not going to be supported by the Consensus Unit?
AssangeDAO social media could promote the next Award ceremony in March 2026 on X where Wau Holland no longer operates an account. Building a bridge. Can we assist in the promotion of the event?
• Longer term: The DAO could top up perpetual pool funds (refer some of Logan’s aligned projects as a probable funding means apart from selling the Clock NFT or sell off a NFT based on an Assange donated artefact?) Note Pak sales at Sotheby’s - https://www.wsj.com/arts-culture/fine-art/sothebys-enters-nft-market-with-17-million-sale-of-art-by-enigmatic-artist-pak-11618429617
• For DAO: Collaboration would receive acknowledgement/visibility for past contributions (get our logo onto what indirectly is being funded out of the 54million collected); legitimacy boost (Assange name + prestigious EWA); network access; potential new PR around collaboration/perpetual fund launch, crypto donations/inflows for the award supporting whistleblowers; lasting legacy beyond legal defense.
• For EWA/Wau Holland and other partners → Directly adds Assange name into this very much undersold award project, access to crypto/Ethereum funding/ broader donation reach (very much German based ATM), lacks publicity without Assange name attached (note no award granted in 2025…?) Should be a win/win.
• Note: taz Panther Stiftung is currently a Wau Holland beneficiary and they are part of this (they have their logo all over this.
The other network assocciated with the Prize is https://whistleblower-net.de/. Again they have a X account which is underperforming, with much needed recognition/boost. It is a possible collaborator for the DAO too ( a really interesting aligned fit) and it has on its advisory council - Renata Avila a previous lawyer who had worked with Julian and the Courage Foundation and one of the first individuals to acknowledge the DAOs effort.
The other possible collaboration, of course is Gabriel’s Information Rights project. It could all be tied in.
Extra - Wau Holland Stiftung has contributed at least €100000+ in publicly documented amounts (primarily for setup and operations) for this award.. These monies are going to the Whistleblower-Netzwerk e.V for set up and administration of the Ellsberg award. These details come from official sources: Wau Holland website announcements, German Lobby Register filings, and Whistleblower-Netzwerk’s transparency reports. The information in this table is from the Whisleblower-Netzwerk Transparency Report -
The first donation made by WHF from the ZivilCourage project area was made in Nov. 2022 50,000 euros.
If the DAO was to set up a Perpetual Fund it would be looking at putting away a considerable sum to operate something quite prestigious like that entirely on its own. Too expensive. Note Wau Holland are co supporters of that award - the Reva and David Logan Foundation (USA) - is the other main financial backer.
Given how much this type of thing costs it would be better to be a collaborator - perhaps offer an allocation towards the prize money - which is €10,000 annually. If the DAO wished to collborate with an organiser of that award negotiate a set of conditions - logo display, partnership inclusion?
from - Registereintrag "Whistleblower-Netzwerk" - Lobbyregister beim Deutschen Bundestag
Payment to Whistleblower-Netzwerk
Amount: €60,001 to €70,000
The WAU Holland Foundation significantly supported the establishment of the International Ellsberg Whistleblower Award.
Like all of these organisations the DAO would require an elite advisory board eventually. So I think it should do more work there at the leadership level if it wishes to transform itself from the perception of grassroots/volunteers only organisation (which could indicate that decentralisation/underground/punks ethos might be a utopian ideal that is not being taken seriously). In fact, being sidelined.
Any possible collaboration here - https://x.com/camski/status/1943622872741621991
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Apparently, she also submitted documents to WikiLeaks once and said they were some of the leaks deleted when Daniel Domscheit-Berg left.