# AIP-12: Consensus Unit Comment **URL:** \ **Category:** Governance\ **Created:** [September 16, 2024, 11:33pm UTC](https://forum.assangedao.org/t/aip-12-consensus-unit-comment/87 "2024-09-16T23:33:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![sudongpo](https://forum.assangedao.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@sudongpo](https://forum.assangedao.org/u/sudongpo)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2024, 2:09pm UTC](https://forum.assangedao.org/t/aip-12-consensus-unit-comment/87/105 "2024-12-08T14:09:26Z")
The discussion about AIP12 has been going on for three months now, and there are no objections to Gabriel’s updated API community. Do we need to discuss another three months? Everyone is tired, is there anyone who can make a decision? The efficiency of lengthy discussions is low. If a company operates like this, it would have gone bankrupt long ago. After acquiring Twitter, musk carried out large-scale layoffs, reducing the number of Twitter employees from about 7800 to about 1500, with a layoff rate of about 80%. You can lay off Gabriel ,a manager with low work efficiency. ---
**Author:** ![Mxy](https://forum.assangedao.org/user_avatar/forum.assangedao.org/mxy/32/216_2.png) [@Mxy](https://forum.assangedao.org/u/Mxy)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2024, 11:30am UTC](https://forum.assangedao.org/t/aip-12-consensus-unit-comment/87/106 "2024-12-11T11:30:46Z")
> [@PeterT](#): > > Feedback from management and those who hold multi sig keys is required by next Friday, 22 November 2024. > [@Mxy](#): > > Do you know what the next steps would be, @stellarmagnet? > [@sudongpo](#): > > The discussion about AIP12 has been going on for three months now, and there are no objections to Gabriel’s updated API community. Do we need to discuss another three months? Everyone is tired, is there anyone who can make a decision? What now? Can anyone give answers or move things along? ---
**Author:** ![sudongpo](https://forum.assangedao.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@sudongpo](https://forum.assangedao.org/u/sudongpo)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2024, 6:59pm UTC](https://forum.assangedao.org/t/aip-12-consensus-unit-comment/87/107 "2024-12-12T18:59:43Z")
We must ensure that those in positions of power who were responsible for @AssangeDAO are not able to disappear off and pretend that they never had anything to do with it. We have the receipts. They must face justice.justice will be served. ---
**Author:** ![Logan](https://forum.assangedao.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/l/278dde/32.png) [@Logan](https://forum.assangedao.org/u/Logan)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2025, 3:55am UTC](https://forum.assangedao.org/t/aip-12-consensus-unit-comment/87/108 "2025-02-23T03:55:13Z")
It has been several months since the drafting of AIP-12, and I truly believe we shouldn’t remain stuck at this stage. The GTU members have yet to be confirmed, and Stella has withdrawn her nomination due to personal reasons. Originally, the GTU was supposed to have five members, but now only three remain: Gabriel, SILK, and BZ. Since there are no other suitable candidates in the community, I suggest proceeding with just these three members for now and submitting the proposal to Snapshot for a vote to get the community governance running first. ---
**Author:** ![Mxy](https://forum.assangedao.org/user_avatar/forum.assangedao.org/mxy/32/216_2.png) [@Mxy](https://forum.assangedao.org/u/Mxy)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2025, 2:45pm UTC](https://forum.assangedao.org/t/aip-12-consensus-unit-comment/87/109 "2025-02-23T14:45:34Z")
> [@Logan](#): > > I suggest proceeding with just these three members for now and submitting the proposal to Snapshot for a vote to get the community governance running first. I agree with this. It’s time to move on, if the DAO ever will ---
**Author:** ![endomorphosis](https://forum.assangedao.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/e/8dc957/32.png) [@endomorphosis](https://forum.assangedao.org/u/endomorphosis)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2025, 3:19pm UTC](https://forum.assangedao.org/t/aip-12-consensus-unit-comment/87/110 "2025-03-18T15:19:07Z")
Under german law a non profit is not allowed to convert the proceeds to private use, and they could easily transfer it to the DAO, if the DAO was a legally registered nonprofit. Moreover, the whole thing could be fixed with the german tax authorities, if the original fund had been set up as an attorney trust account, however attorney trust accounts have extreme oversight, to prevent the attorneys from literally stealing money from incarcerated clients. A resolution would be to talk to the finance department, to amend the previous years tax returns, to reflect that they were the custodian for an attorney trust account, and they are returning the trust funds back to the originators. Of course Wau Holland isn’t even a legal enttity, it was administratively dissolved because of previous non compliance with non profit reporting of where the funds are going, and so the funds either ended up in one of the CCC’s shell companies, or with Andy Mueller himself. ---
**Author:** ![endomorphosis](https://forum.assangedao.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/e/8dc957/32.png) [@endomorphosis](https://forum.assangedao.org/u/endomorphosis)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2025, 3:37pm UTC](https://forum.assangedao.org/t/aip-12-consensus-unit-comment/87/111 "2025-03-18T15:37:34Z")
> [@PeterT](#): > > there were many great suggestions and draft proposals from Andrew Teh, Zylo and PMA - the workhorses of this place in the early days. Yes, actually we submitted many draft proposals, and had it been a DAO, the first proposal regarding max bid / refunds would have been implimented, as would have mine with regards to funding a Habeas Corpus fight to free assange, and instead the family got him to plea guilty instead of filing for habeas relief, instead spending the money to ingratiate australian politicians. ---
**Author:** ![PeterT](https://forum.assangedao.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/f1d935/32.png) [@PeterT](https://forum.assangedao.org/u/PeterT)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2025, 9:29pm UTC](https://forum.assangedao.org/t/aip-12-consensus-unit-comment/87/112 "2025-03-23T21:29:20Z")
> [@endomorphosis](#): > > Of course Wau Holland isn’t even a legal enttity, it was administratively dissolved because of previous non compliance with non profit reporting of where the funds are going, and so the funds either ended up in one of the CCC’s shell companies, or with Andy Mueller himself. In June 2024, the Hamburg-Nord tax office withdrew its decision to revoke the foundation’s charitable status for the year 2020, following an appeal and clarification of financial records. This means the foundation is once again fully recognised as a charitable organisation and is allowed to issue donation receipts as of that update. **There have been no further public announcements indicating a change to this status since June 2024, and given that today is March 24, 2025, it appears the foundation continues to operate with its charitable status reinstated, barring any unreported developments in the intervening months.**. [Charitable status regained for 2020 - Wau Holland Stiftung](https://wauland.de/en/news/2024/06/charitable-status-regained-for-2020/) [Previous page](https://forum.assangedao.org/t/aip-12-consensus-unit-comment/87.md?page=4)